Wednesday, October 29, 2014

Marvel Line Up


I did a post on DC's lineup and while I did a post on some speculation about Captain America 3: Civil War, I thought it would only be right to do a post on the most recent news about Marvel's plans for the next few years.


Again, a lot of this post will be speculation, and not very good speculation at that. I don't know the comics that well and all the speculation on where the Marvel Cinematic Universe will head will be based on what I think they could do, and what might make sense to me.

Ant-Man
July 2015 - Now this was not on the lineup of movies that were coming out soon, mainly because we knew all about Ant-Man. Also, I guess Ant-Man is considered Phase 2... Kind of strange.

However, I don't think I'm alone in kind of worrying about Ant-Man. Put aside the whole drama with Edgar Wright leaving the project, nobody really seems excited for Ant-Man, including Marvel. Yeah its not as big a property as the other films in the Marvel Universe but I really haven't heard anything about it lately.

Maybe the film will get a trailer in the next few months and people will become more excited about it but since the cast was announced for the film, it just seems as though the news for this film has been less and less. I'm really hoping for a good comedy like Ant-Man, and seeing what they did with Guardians of the Galaxy, I think its possible.

I also like Adam McKay's work. Now that's usually in works like Anchorman or Step Brothers but I'm hoping the guy can work his magic and make it a fun film as well as a viable part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

If not, its probably not the worst thing to ever happen in the world. I would just like to hear more about it.

Civil War - May 6 2016
Its confirmed that Captain America 3 is going to be the Civil War storyline.

Like I said before, I've talked about speculation towards Civil War. Before last night, this was all speculation, Robert Downey Jr was in talks but nothing was confirmed. We didn't know it was the Civil War storyline for sure... but we do now!

If you want to read my thoughts on The Civil War Storyline and how I think it could possibly affect the future of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, take a look here.

Needless to say, I am excited for this.

A part of me wonders if the decision to head in this direction was done in response to Batman v Superman. I have to wonder if Civil War was a plan they had a long time ago but I don't think it was their plan to make it the third Captain America until A) Captain America became the coolest member of the Avengers and B) DC announced Batman v Superman.

It makes me wonder if Marvel is feeling a little bit threatened by DC at all. It doesn't quite make sense quite yet because nothing has come out of the DC universe since Man of Steel and not enough people thought Man of Steel was ground breaking on its own. I thought it was... damn I wanna watch Man of Steel now.

The point is, I'm wondering if this is a pre-emptive attack to maintain its dominance. But we'll see.

Doctor Strange - November 4 2016

Benedict Motherfucking Cumberbatch!

That is all...

Really... there's nothing I know about Doctor Strange that would be beneficial to this post. I wish I could speculate what this movie is about but I have no idea.

I'm so excited for Benedict Cumbebatch to finally be a large superhero role like this. I loved him as Khan, I loved him as Sherlock. What more can you ask for. I'm excited for this movie.

Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - May 5 2017

Honestly something has to be changing in the next Avengers movie because they are changing up the line up big time.

Think about this.

Phase one and two were the main members of the Avengers and their sequels. Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, the Hulk. Phase two the only deviation was Guardians of the Galaxy. Now the line up finds the main cast in the minority. And the Guardians are actually going to be a veteran of the group, I would say leading the new group of Phase 3.

I still don't know the complete place Guardians have in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Yes, they showed one of the Infinity Stones that will obviously show up later in Phase 3 but we'll get to that. But int he grand scheme of things, what did Guardians contribute? Howard the Duck?

While i still don't know their place in the universe. I love Guardians. I'm going to love seeing their story unfold more. Now I need to rewatch Guardians because while I enjoyed it when I first saw it, I find myself wondering if Guardians was really that good. Its not that I think it was bad, I just need to watch it again to reaffirm my thoughts that it was good. Soon hopefully.

Thor: Ragnarok - July 28 2017

Now this is the movie that makes me wonder and speculate.

The little I know about Ragnarok is that it means the End of All Things. In the comics, its a story arc where Asgard and Thor just seem to die... and that's all.

This is the one bad part about Marvel revealing all these movies because I know now that Thor is safe in the next Avengers. I think everyone has been waiting for one of the Avengers to die. We know its not going to be Captain America, we know its not going to be Iron Man, and now with this film, we know Thor isn't going to die... at least not until the end of this film we know for sure. In fact I think that might be a speculation post coming up soon.

What I can say with 90% certainty, without any confirmation because there haven't been any, is that Loki is going to come back.

At the end of Thor: The Dark World, Loki has pretty much taken over Asgard under the guise of Odin.

I can only guess, but I would guess that that will have a huge part in Ragnarok. Either Loki will be the cause of it, or he will help Thor fight this threat... And I think Loki is going to die.

I don't like thinking about it that way but think about this. If Marvel is going to do a movie about the end of Asgard, a large destruction of a great proportion, someone is going to have to die. My guess is, its either Thor or Loki. Its easier for them to kill of Loki because it will have the same effect, if not a greater one on the fans than if Thor died and it allows for the God of Thunder to keep being in movies whereas Loki has already had an expiration dates on how long they could keep drawing him him out.

That is the best speculation I can do about Ragnarok. I also want to move on.

Black Panther - November 3 2017

Now I've already mentioned a slight feeling that Marvel feels DC coming up from behind, and a part of me thinks they're nervous. Thus they're trying to shut DC down before they get the chance to take the lead.

Now DC also announced their first superhero of color with Cyborg. The difference is, that movie is coming out in 2020, Black Panther is coming out in 2017. While DC announced it first, Marvel will come out with that film first. Its an interesting game these two are playing. And I'll talk about that again with a later movie.

Again, the thing I like about this lineup is that I don't know a lot of the properties coming up. I don't know about Doctor Strange, I don't know that much about Ragnarok, or Guardians of the Galaxy, and I sure as hell don't know anything about Black Panther.

What I've read about Black Panther is that it is a title passed down through an African tribe.

I hate to put it like this, but if there was going to be a competition between Marvel and DC and decide who was going to do the more risky black superhero, I'm pretty sure Marvel takes the cake.

This is something we've never seen done before... at least not well.

Cyborg is an interesting character but there's a difference between the character being black, and the character being black and from Africa.

Please do not think that I think its a bad thing that they're doing this. I think its awesome. I am just pointing out that this is a huge risk for Marvel. While Guardians of the Galaxy was a comic nobody had heard of, Black Panther is a comic that nobody has heard of and furthermore, its not the norm.

But I think Marvel is doing the right thing. Not only in making a film like this, but also how they're going to approach it.

Chadwick Boseman is playing Black Panther. I have not seen this actor in anything so I can't say anything to his acting ability but I can say its a good choice because of his reputation with movies like 42.

But he's also a little bit of an unknown. It would be silly of them to put him straight into his own movie right?

Well they're not going to. They're going to put him in Civil War.

Which again, makes me wonder if Marvel is getting freaked out by DC because they're taking some of DC's ideas. DC wants to show their future products in their earlier films, so they want to show Wonder Woman before her own standalone film. This will (hopefully) get people excited about that film and make the standalone film more successful.

Well let's hope that's what takes place with Chadwick Boseman. I'm personally very excited for this choice. I think that Marvel is taking the helm of doing something different... well... not totally. Again, I will talk about this in a little bit. Just give me a second.

The last thing I want to talk about is something that was speculated about during the Avengers 2: Age of Ultron trailer.

Remember when Andy Serkis was in the Age of Ultron trailer?

Yeah, when it first came out, people were like, OMG Andy Serkis is going to be this character form the Black Panther comics!

I had to take a step back and say, that doesn't mean anything. He could be anyone. Just because he kind of looks like this guy in the comics or tv show, it doesn't mean he's going to play a character from the Black Panther storyline...

Oh wait... Yeah he might be.

I'm still waiting to see who he plays, but there's a very good chance that that is the case. I don't know anything about that character, whoever he is. I only hope that Age of Ultron gives him a great introduction and actually develops him as a great villain. While people have kind of forgotten about the problems Marvel has, I still know that Marvel still has problems with developing villains that have actually made a splash. The last one that did that was Loki. The Winter Soldier... eh, not really, he was more of an anti-hero. Maybe Andy Serkis can change things up and actually be a great villain.

But again, its all speculation.

Captain Marvel - July 6 2018

And this is the announcement that I've been wanting to talk about since the beginning of this post. Because I'm sure this was in the works, I'm sure this was in the plans for a while. But basically, Marvel missed the boat on this one.

DC comes out with their line up and says, We're making a Cyborg movie (a movie featuring a black superhero) AND Wonder Woman, the first female Superhero movie.

Now again, Marvel probably had this in the plans for a while and are just now announcing it. But honestly, they lost here. DC announced they were going to do a female superhero first, Marvel looks like they're doing this just to compete with DC now. It has a little bit to do with the fact that Wonder Woman is a better known female superhero than Captain Marvel. But its also the fact that DC is coming out with their Wonder Woman movie a full year ahead of Captain Marvel.

And its this movie that really makes me feel as though Marvel feels threatened by DC. I have a guess that Marvel had no intentions of laying out their entire line up until DC came out with theirs. DC shows they're doing a Wonder Woman movie, they're doing a Justice League movie, they're doing a Cyborg movie and suddenly, everyone is talking about DC and not Marvel anymore. I think Marvel is suddenly feeling the competition they have never felt before.

Now, I have no delusions that I think Marvel feels threatened. I would guess they're not confident about Wonder Woman.

And they're not the only ones. I don't know if anybody is really confident about Wonder Woman quite yet and I think Marvel is ready to capitalize on that.

If Wonder Woman bombs, suddenly Marvel has a great alternative to it. If Wonder Woman does well, a year later Marvel can appeal to those people who loved that movie and say, here's another movie that you may like.

From a marketing stand point, Marvel is fucking brilliant.

Now, again, I think Marvel dropped the ball, but not by much. They still are having their black superhero WELL before DCs. While DC announced it first, the first superhero film featuring a black superhero will be done by Marvel.

Its an interesting game these two are playing and I'm interested to see if Marvel can hold their strong lead. However, its a lead I can see DC closing in on.

In Humans - November 2 2018

I know absolutely nothing about Inhumans...



That is all...


Seriously... I know absolutely nothing about InHumans. Apparently its a group of people with superhero abilities. I'm kind of imagining that they'll have a part in Guardians of the Galaxy because they're more in that realm... but again... I know nothing about InHumans. 

Lets move on.

Avengers Infinity War - Part 1 - May 2018 Part 2 - May 2019

Now right after Black Panther, but before Captain Marvel and before Inhumans, there will be the first part of Avengers Infinity War. 

Again, what the hell Marvel?

I know you probably had this in mind because DC is not the first group to split up a big name movie like this but to split up a team up movie with other properties in between? This is the exact same thing DC just announced! Why do the exact same god damn thing?

And what do I know? Maybe DC stole it from you. But as far as it goes, it kind of looks like you ripped that off of the Justice League films coming out. 

Don't get me wrong, I'm excited as hell. That is two Avengers movies, two Justice League movies, two of them are going to be in the same year!

And this brings me to my own speculation. 

This original group of 6 Avengers. I'm guessing at least two of them are going to die in Age of Ultron 

Unfortunately, it can be Iron Man, it can't be Captain America, and it can't be Thor. They all have movies they need to get to. 

That being said, I think at least one of those three might die in either Civil War, or Ragnarok. 

I think its going to be Captain America. Looking at the Civil War storyline, and looking at what might make sense for later films, it just seems like its going to be Captain America. That's my guess. 

But hey, it could also be Iron Man. I know Disney has been bleeding money by continuing to hire Robert Downey Jr, maybe they'll switch up the Civil War storyline and kill Tony Stark... but I doubt it. And again, its more likely that Loki is going to die in Ragnarok rather than Thor. 

But as for Age of Ultron... I think Bruce Banner is going to die. 

Its sad, I love Mark Ruffalo as the Hulk, but if they were going to kill of a main property without losing a lot of future capital, the Hulk might be a good choice. That or he's going into space and Planet Hulk becomes a thing. 

I just think that The Hulk dying or being sent away might be a bittersweet ending to a movie that already has the tone of being a darker film that already looks like it can't end happily for everyone. I have no doubt that Ultron is going to be defeated, but its going to cost the Avengers something.

Beyond that, I almost know for a fact that its a flip of a coin between Hawk Eye and Black Widow as to which one of them are going to die in Avenger: Age of Ultron. However, I don't think that's big enough of a sacrifice to the monster that I'm hoping Ultron is going to become. 

Secondly, Civil War

I'm hoping it expands past the third Captain America. 

This seems like a big enough story that it could span multiple movies.

I do know that its going to have a large impact, or if it doesn't I'm going to be pissed. Having a versus between Iron Man and Captain America is no doubt going to cause divides. Divides that, I think will break up the Avengers. 

Here's my guess, Ultron, creates so much destruction and someone dies, probably Bruce Banner. Iron Man is so distraught, remember, they were friends. He sides with the government in this controversial policy, Not necessarily a registration act, but a controversial policy. Captain America disagrees. They fight. However, I'm going to guess that they both survive. Maybe Pepper Potts dies, or someone important has to die. C'mon Marvel, you gotta start raising the stakes there. 

From there the Avengers are scattered. Phase 3, to me, just seems like its going to be dark and utter chaos. Especially since most of them are on the hight of their career, in the real world and in the Cinematic Universe.

Look at this extended clip that was shown on Agents of Shield last night. 


These guys are friends, they are having freaking contests and drinking with each other. I'm just getting a feeling that after Ultron, nothing will be the same. It will drive them to Civil War. Drive them to the end of Asgard, cause them to deal with Soccerers Supreme, and things not within the norm that has been created in the last two phases.

Needless to say, its going to be freaking magical!

But what do you think? Do you think Marvel is back on top? Do you think there's a chink in their armor from DC? Comment and Discuss below. 

I'll leave you with this. On totally other news from Marvel/More Disney, here's the trailer for Big Hero 6, which looks awesome! Just a lot of fun, I think I need that to balance out the darkness that is definitely coming with this new phase of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Enjoy!





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